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📖 Japanese Grammar Guide N1: ~たところで

📌 What is this grammar?

This is a concessive grammar pattern used to express:

  • “Even if (someone) does something, it won’t help / it won’t change the result.”
  • It conveys the meaning of futility or hopelessness.

📖 Structure

TypeStructure
Verb (た-form) + ところで

✅ It’s often used in hypothetical or conditional situations, followed by a negative or unchanging result.


🎨 Meaning in Context

Used when:

  • You want to say “Even if something is done, it’s meaningless or won’t solve the problem.”
  • Often used to express a resigned, logical, or hopeless attitude.

English equivalents:

  • “Even if…”
  • “At this point, no matter what you do…”
  • “It’s no use…”

📚 Example Sentences

JapaneseEnglish
今さら謝ったところで、もう遅い。Even if you apologize now, it’s too late.
急いだところで、間に合わないよ。Even if you hurry, you won’t make it in time.
考えたところで、答えは出ない。Even if you think about it, you won’t find an answer.
説明したところで、彼は理解できないだろう。Even if you explain it, he probably won’t understand.
泣いたところで、何も変わらない。Even if you cry, nothing will change.

📌 Nuances & Tone

  • Often used in a logical, resigned, or practical tone.
  • Common in conversations, essays, or when giving advice with a sense of futility.
  • Not suitable for formal written documents like business emails or official proposals.

📝 Comparison with Similar Patterns

ExpressionMeaningNuance
~てもEven if…Neutral, general
~たところでEven if… it’s no useNegative, hopeless
~にしてもEven if… stillSlightly softer, reflective
~たって / だってEven if…Casual, conversational

Example:

  • 謝っても無駄だ。→ Even if you apologize, it’s useless.
  • 謝ったところで無駄だ。→ Even if you apologize (now), it’s hopeless.

✅ Practice Exercise

Translate into Japanese using ~たところで:

  1. Even if you complain, nothing will change.
  2. Even if I study now, it’s too late.
  3. Even if you ask him, he won’t come.

Possible Answers:

  1. 文句を言ったところで、何も変わらない。
  2. 今さら勉強したところで、もう遅い。
  3. 彼に頼んだところで、来ないだろう。

📝 Summary Table

Grammar~たところで
MeaningEven if… it won’t help
StructureVerb (た-form) + ところで
NuanceHopeless, logical, negative
UsageAdvice, conversations, reflections

📑 Pro Tip:

You’ll often see this in:

  • N1 reading comprehension
  • Anime/manga character dialogues (when someone gives up)
  • Conversations where one person tries to convince another it’s no use

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